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C’mon Sheeple! Just Hand Your Kids Over to the Doctors.

August 2, 2012 by admin in Featured, NetNews with 52 Comments

The doctor tried to take her son from her arms, told her to be compliant, and said, ‘Your son will be receiving 14 vaccinations today.’ This didn’t happen in communist Russia. It happened here.

Cutout from Sheeple, by Deesillustration.com, with Hypodermic overlay

by Alisha Lynn Ramsey

So I had a horrible experience today at Forcevaccine Clinic in Vaccines, Indiana with a doctor by the name of Dr. Libelthreat. We took Adam in for his 2 year well visit so that if he ever needed a doctor for a sick visit we could take him in. We selectively vaccinate and haven’t done any since he was 2 months old.

The student doctor is the one who did the actual check up. He took a history and kept commenting on how advanced Adam was. He was surprised that we were still breastfeeding but didn’t seem turned off by it—more curious then anything. Was happy to hear Adam was still RF. Then he asked about vaccines and asked if he was up to date. That’s when I explained that no he wasn’t and we weren’t doing any more until we further researched it.

He finished up and said Adam was very healthy and everything was good and he just had to have his boss sign off on the chart and we would be out of there.

We waited 30 minutes and the student doctor and the pediatrician finally walk in the exam room. The pediatrician doesn’t even look at me or speak to me. Instead they go to his chart and are talking back and forth and the student doctor is nodding and writing things down. That’s when the pediatrician turns to me and asks, “Has he had any vaccinations at all?”

I responded, “He’s had a few at birth but none since.” He turns back to the student and tells him something and he writes it down. Then the student doctor tried to take my son from my arms, and as he was reaching for him the pediatrician tells me, “Your son will be receiving 14 vaccinations today, Mrs. Ramsey.”

Yes, you read that correctly: FOURTEEN in ONE day.

I instinctively pull my son back to me and tell him no, we do not want any vaccines. The pediatrician goes on to tell me that everything i’ve read online about autism isn’t true. I respond that’s not why we aren’t vaccinating.

He says to me “You are going to kill your son. You don’t want to be responsible for killing this little boy do you Mrs. Ramsey?”

Before I could respond he nods to the student doctor, who steps forward to try to take Adam out of my arms again. I pull back and am backed literally into a corner at this point and shaking. The pediatrician goes on about how I am not thinking of the best interest of my child and how I’m going to kill him and that he will be getting the vaccines today and more every month until he is up to date in full.

His voice is beginning to raise by now and the look on his face is stern. “This is for the best Mrs Ramsey so be compliant,” he says to me as for a 3rd time the student doctor tries to take Adam from my arms, this time a little more assertively. The student doctor looked as white as a sheet but like he was doing what he had to do because of what his boss was telling him. He looked young enough to be wet behind the ears.

I’m standing in a corner, in a room the size of a box with these 2 men trying to take my child and vaccinate him against my will. I hold onto Adam as the student doctor is trying to take him from my arms and Adam begins to cry and cling to me. I’m shaking, I’m afraid and Adam can sense this. I put both arms around Adam and bring his head towards my bosom to protect him and I pull bravery from somewhere.

“He will NOT be vaccinated. You will not be putting poison in my son.” I stammered, shaking like a leaf but I held strong. The pediatrician glared at me.

“Well,” he says clearly irritated,”If you aren’t going to comply, then you leave me no choice. Not only will you not be allowed back at this clinic but I will be reporting you to child protective services. You are endangering your child.”

I didn’t wait for him to say anything more, I pushed past them and walked out. As I’m walking down the hall as fast as possible, with Adam screaming scared to death and me shaking like mad, he hollers after he “You’re going to be sorry for letting Google be your doctor!!!”

I walked faster and got out of there as fast as I could.

Not once did this doctor ask me why we weren’t vaccinating. Whether it be medical reason, religious belief, personal belief, he never bothered to even ask. Not once did I say I did my research “online” or with “google” as he insinuated. In fact he treated me as some insubordinate, uneducated, ignorant, abusive parent.

They tried three times to remove my child from my arms after I told them NO. They were willing to vaccinate my child against my will, my beliefs, or .. wait a minute … they didn’t even know what they were going against because, once again, they never bothered to ask me why I don’t vaccinate.

Last but not least they were going to give him fourteen vaccinations in his tiny 24 pound body at once!

This is what they call medical professionals??!
This is how you are treated for not being a sheeple and shuffling along quietly like the rest of the community?
This is how you are treated for putting a doctor, a mere mortal as you with a diploma, in his place and not on a pedestal as a god or superior.

How can these doctors think so highly of themselves to assume they know what is better for a child than his own mother? When they have known the child for no more than five minutes? The child’s medical history is crystal clear and he is thriving. The child, obviously well taken care of, healthy, clean, free of bruises or signs of abuse. Advanced for his age, happy and well rounded. This child that I have nursed since birth, whom I would fight for to the death. Who doesn’t eat Mc Donalds because I’m conscience of what I put in his body. Who rides rear facing because I’m aware of the dangers of vehicular collisions—for which, by the way, the odds far surpass the odds of dying from an illness from being unvaccinated.

This further cements my belief that the medical community is no more than a business out to make a buck. Most doctors no longer care about their patients and instead see them as a chart number, a dollar sign, a science experiment. They do not have our children’s or our best interests at heart like they claim. The oath that they swore evaporates into the wind as their heads swell with arrogance. I hold firm to the belief that I am doing what is best for my child.

It is okay to not be sure about something, to be cautious in making the right choice for your child. This doesn’t make you a bad or unfit parent. It is okay to research on your own, to be knowledgeable, and to tell doctors NO. They are human just as us. They make mistakes—they call it practice for a reason. Beyond that it is your legal right to not vaccinate your child—your freedom as an American citizen. I leave you with some ads from physicians:

Alisha Lynn Ramsey originally published this piece under the title C’mon Sheeple! Light up another Camel! In her blog, Adventures in Crunchy, she describes herself and approach to life with her husband and children this way:

I am a marine wife with 3 wonderful children. I was a mainstream parent that converted over to crunchy after the birth of my latest son and continue to embrace more of the crunchy lifestyle. I practiced natural birthing and I breastfeed and plan on extended breastfeeding until self weaning, whenever that may be. My husband is a wonderful supporter and my biggest fan. We cloth diaper and co-sleep. We don’t believe in “crying it out”. We both baby wear and believe strongly in attachment parenting. We ERF. We selectively vax and use homeopathic remedies over modern medicine. We try to avoid antibiotics and we believe breast milk can cure pretty much anything and if it can’t, something in nature can.

Warning to commenters: This article was written in full sincerity. It happened as described. Alisha has told her tale to warn others. There is no legitimate reason to accuse her of lying or making any other derogatory or defamatory comments towards or about her or this site for carrying it. Any that are made will be deleted and the author will be banned. There will be no warnings.

Tagged 14 vaccines one day, big pharma, conventional medicine, forced vaccination, macintosh tries to force vaccination, modern medicine, sheeple, sheeple vaccinations, sheeple vaccines, vaccine, vaccine compliance, vaccines

Gazerskg87

This story infuriated me to tears. I’m so glad you wrote about this and are sharing this experience. I hope this doctor gets reported!

Zed

This doctor must immediately be reported to the County and/or State medical board. No matter where you live in the U.S., there is NO SUCH THING as mandatory vaccination. Even in the case of a full-scale epidemic, the non-vaccinated are afforded the option of quarantine. Attending public schools DOES NOT require mandatory vaccination, as 48 states have provisions in place to opt out. In the 2 remaining states, homeschooling or medical exemptions also provide waiver of vaccination.
If this ‘medical professional’ is allowed to go unpunished, he will attempt to bully other unknowing parents into the same situation. THEY MUST BE EDUCATED, and a reprimand from the local medical board is the quickest way to get their attention.

Angels Whisper

How dare they, to manipulate and insulting you! You have the right to refuse, so you did a very good job on this one. It makes me scary and angry when I read about the power those docters seem to have. They’re getting more and more untrustable. I call this Horror!
My grandson has got autism of the vaccination, he was a healthy child before he was vaccinated, and after every vaccination he changed and finally ended up in his own world. It took us years to recover, and now he’s 9 years old and still in (CEASE) therapy.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Tricia-Rogers/100001585575523 Tricia Rogers

wow not called for could have done one round of shots fourteen is overkill to much for the immune system to process could have dealt them out over a longer period of time , but 14 at once I would of done the samething.

Ivyleeme

If somebody tried to forcibly remove my child from my arms for ANY reason, especially to inject her with toxins–I’d kick them in the nuts and scream RAPE!

Holyfaith8

I wanna call that jerk and let his dumb ass know that choosing not to vaccinate is not a crime ,but making false reports to C.P.S. is! He needs to be held accountable for what he did!!!!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000140138237 Rose Voltaire

What happened with child protective services?
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000140138237 Rose Voltaire

I also thought that a VIS had to be given to the parents for each vaccine and that parents had to sign off on each vaccine.

http://www.facebook.com/crystaldanae87 Crystal Scott

I’ve never signed anything for my almost two year old daughter’s vaccinations.

http://www.facebook.com/AmazinMom6 Amanda Hawkins

Wow just wow – good for you for standing your ground and not leeting them bully you into causing permanent damage to your child. I cheered for you when you pushed past him and exited the office. WTG!
Skeptimama

Fake.
Taoistprowess

Alisha’s action to leave the pediatrician’s office and to have courage to push through the doctors and left sounded like a natural reaction to protect her baby from harm whether it be sensing danger in a war zone, doctor’s office or any environment that could bring harm to her or her baby. Thank you Alisha and Adam for having such strength! everything you wrote about that medical profession is true and becoming more and more apparent to millions of people. Stay strong! Know your rights! Knowledge is power!
Esther

She updated on her blog that she got the doctor’s name wrong.

“When I called to report him I realized I had been spelling his name incorrectly. My apologies. You are more then welcome to call Jasper Pediatrics, 812-482-7918, or google Jasper Peds if you want to get the number for yourself and confirm this is the dr that just replaced Kreilein.
The spelling of the Dr I saw is Dr. Donald McIntire
You can find more information on him here
http://www.duboiscountyfreepress.com/dr-donald-duck-mcintire-appointed-to-medical-staff/
and here
http://www.healthgrades.com/physician/dr-donald-mcintire-xhtpr“

HeidiStevenson

Please note that this post has been edited to remove names. It is otherwise unchanged.

amanda

were these military doctors ? im navy so im worried if it was . .
Sam

I personally believe in vaccinating. I also believe this doctor should be reported and a complaint to the police filed for assault. No-one should be forced to vaccinate if they choose not to, especially not in such an abusive manner.
Sabbathunter

14 vaccinations at once is ridiculous. But other than religious reasons there is no reason not to vaccinate your child if you want him/her to remain healthy.

PutinReloaded

Here’ s one reason for you in the form of a very recent study by the University of British Columbia from 2011:

http://www.meerwetenoverfreek.nl/images/stories/Tomljenovic_Shaw-CMC-published.pdf

The vaccination program is injecting aluminium adjuvants in an amount that surpasses 14 to 49 times the FDA set limits:

“…In 2004, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) set a limit for
aluminum from parenteral sources for individuals with impaired kidney
function and premature neonates at no greater than 4 to 5 μg/kg bw/day,
stating that levels above those have been associated with CNS and bone
toxicity [56]…”

“In spite of these above data, newborns, infants and children up to 6 months of age in the U.S. and other developed countries receive 14.7 to 49 times more than the FDA safety limits for aluminum from parenteral sources from vaccines
through mandatory immunization programs (Table 2). ”

“Specifically,
2-month old children in U.K., U.S., Canada and Australia routinely
receive as much as 220 to 245 μg/kg bw of aluminum per vaccination
session (Table 2), a burden equivalent to 34 standard adult-dose
injections of hepatitis B vaccine (Table 3). Similarly, newborns at
birth receive 73.5 μg Al/kg bw/day from a single hepatitis B vaccine,
which is a dose equivalent to 10 standard adult-dose injections of
hepatitis B vaccine in a single day (Table 3).”
Hadronyche

Sorry, but the last sentence in your comment is “utter horse****”.
http://www.facebook.com/tyais Tyais Terry

Oh yea right because the FDA and Big Pharma really just have our best interest at heart, right? Bahahaha.
Herbmom

I come from a vaccine free family. I only had 2 vaccines in my life. MMR and tetnus boosters when I was in my early 20′s because a Dr. convinced me I needed them. I ended up with health issues. My other siblings that haven’t been vaccinated are all still healthy even though their friends of the same age are dying of cancers and other health problems. My father is a Dr. that researched vaccines and refused them on all of his children. We all grew up healthy even when we were exposed to various diseases but have developed true immunities from them. Over the course of the last 20yrs I have come across so many families that have stopped vaccinating because of health reasons and they have seen the difference in their children that haven’t been vaccinated. Studies are now being done on vaccinated children vs non vaccinated children and they are see a much lower incident of Autism, allergies and other health issues in the unvaccinated. Parents are choosing no vaccines because they are doing true research and not just following what society, Dr’s and the media tell them. Power is Knowledge!

Suzy

Health is irrelevant to members of the Church of Vaccinology. They will say your good health is a coincidence, just like the vaccinated coming down with the diseases they were vaccinated against is also a coincidence, as is the epidemic of autoimmune and degenerative disease in the vaccinated population (because vaccines PROTECT!). Anything which contradicts their dogma is a coincidence. Truth is irrelevant. Their blinders are not removable.
bodica

Herbmom, your dad was a true physician. Has anyone else noticed that the first generation to undergo mass vaccination is the first generation to die of epidemic cancer?

Lorena

u r saying this because your son is not vaccine injured like mine!
Romesa

So, you are telling us that putting formaldehyde, mercury, aluminum, neuro-toxins, foreign proteins, fetal cells from aborted babies, dead and live viruses, Phenol, animal blood and viruses, antifreeze, carcinogens etc… in our babies bodies that have compromised immune systems already, makes them HEALTHIER??? Give us all a break and give us some credit for having the ability to research and think for ourselves. When aluminum is put in a vaccine with mercury, it makes the mercury 1000 times more toxic… autistic children do not purge out these heavy metals, they just keep collecting in their brain. Do some reading for Pete’s Sake! When parents say that they don’t want poison put into their child’s body, they really mean POISON!

bodica

The first generation to undergo mass vaccination is the first generation to die from epiidemic cancer.
Dr Deirdre McNamara, Homeopathist

Haleymills

this story is bullshit
Halemills

utter horseshit.
dorkettester

You need to report him to the Medical Ethics board. There can be no medical treatment without consent, preferably (if not required) in writing.

Suzy

And that consent needs to be INFORMED consent! He should show you the package insert (which he has probably never read) and go over the benefits, risks and adverse reactions. The student should have stood up for your rights too.

http://www.facebook.com/katrina.maine Katrina Lynn Ellis

I had a doctor act like that over my daughter and school nurse. Daughter about 2 weeks after her pneumonia vaccine developed pneumonia that caused her to be hospitalized for 5 days. When I inquired about how soon after her shot they said it was a coincidence and her pneumonia would have been worse without it. I am NOT too sure about that. I was pressured into that shot by the pediatrician; My daughter had already had a cough the fever was gone they said it was just allergies. Last time one of my kids was sick and had the MMR back in 2002 within 2 hrs started getting sick fever and vomiting the doc said it was a normal reaction and maybe whatever had been bothering him just got worse due to crying from the shot. Stomach issues continued for about 2 months kept being told it was normal. Then came the regression which I was told was normal.

Since daughter was hospitalized I have only agreed to polio and meningitis.

http://www.facebook.com/tyais Tyais Terry

they always say “it’s a coincidence” and “how little we understand that it doesn’t work like that” pulease. Hope your baby is ok now.

Lorena

wow it is sad really sad. I’m sorry this is a true history and I’m sorry this is the kind of doctors we have nowadays
Moonfaerie77

REPORT HIM!!
http://www.facebook.com/tyais Tyais Terry

I wish you’d publish his name so we could harass him . you did the right thing. Phuck child protective services and anyone else forcibly trying to poison your family.
Amcquinn

I admire your strength and courage in the face of such Fascist bullying. I became a Physician of natural medicine after my son’s autism issues were resolved using homeopathic principles. He was damaged by the MMR vaccine over 17 years ago. I was so angry, I wrote a book entitled “The Path to Cure; The Whole Art of Healing” about our very arduous voyage to resolve the pathology he suffered as a result. It has become my life’s work as a result. I’ve just recently written a fourth book about a 35 day raw goats milk cleanse I did and wondered if you would be open to providing me a testimonial for the book. If so, you can contact me at [email protected]. My facebook page is listed under Arcanum Wholistic Clinic if you’d like to check me out.
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http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002578167975 Jeffrey Larsen

Wow. This really angers me. By trying to take your child AFTER you said no, the Dr. commited assault. Not only that, you PAY him. He works for you!
http://MrsMamaHen.com/ Conni

*GASP* – were you in a Tricare clinic? We are military also, and while I have never received treatment like you have, on the RARE occassions that we actually set foot in a clinic and are seen by a “doctor” we are always graced with the priviledge of the “You need your tenanus shot” and you need this, and you need that, and you are putting yourself at risk blah blah blah…like they are the first doctor to ever see you. Like you don’t get the same flipping lecture by EVERYONE in the “medical profession”. One time my youngest had run up the stairs and tripped and jammed his wrist. The next day it was hurting pretty bad, and I took him in to make sure it wasn’t cracked or anything. They had done the x-ray, bandaged him up with a little brace, and the “doc” was about to sign off on the paperwork when he suddenly noticed the note about no vax. SUDDENLY he wasn’t done and had to give my son a complete head-to-toe exam…I swear he was looking for something, anything to “get me” on. Then of course he proceeded with “the lecture.”

Way to go for you being SO strong though! I can’t imagine I would have handled myself as well as you did!
Sylviarolon

I believe her..I was banned from taking my kids to their pediatrician after she learned I no longer vaccinated…Oh well better for them..I go to holistic doctors now. This is a very scary experience Hopefully Obamacare will not take our right not to vaccinate away.
Mamabear866

I do hope you have reported those physicians to your state’s medical society. Absolute malpractice as far as I can see it. Battery at the least, if he touched your son w/o your permission. Did he reassure you also that the vaccine corporations are 100% safe and reputable? This MD might find your story interesting also. Ugh!! http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2009/07/20/vaccine-legal-issues-in-the-usa/

Suzy

Also, did he reassure you that if your son suffered vaccine damage nobody is legally responsible but you? And the medical profession who administers the vaccines has no idea how to heal the damage done by them? You’re on your own with the damage they create, and the cure will NOT be covered by insurance. Unbelievable!

coloradomom

Whether you are pro or con on the vaccine regiment controversy for children, these two sorry excuses for medical professionals violated medical protocol and although I
do not know exact medical board rules for Indiana, where I live they would be called before the State Medical Board to account for their actions.

I am a registered LPN and know for a fact that vaccines do cause more problems
than they cure. If I had it to over again, I never would have put my children through
the hell they endured through out their lives, because of what I now believe were the early childhood immunizations that their pediatrician administered…

Sadly, one son is now gone because of complications due to the side effects of these medications. He was also diagnosed with Asperger’s Syndrome. Some doctors that I spoke with believe that his illnesses were a direct result of too many early childhood immunizations, given in too many combined doses.
FelicityAD

I am so so so sorry you had to go through this! Regardless of who vaccinates and why, a parent should never be forced to do so. We should all be allowed a choice for something that is so dangerous to our children’s well-being. Reading stories like this where doctor’s are so ignorant and unkind just infuriates and upsets me to no end. I’m so sorry!!
Tov

This article states the truth. You can also add chemo therapy to the list, which has a very low success rate — notwithstanding, its brutality. It kills everything indiscriminately; and hope to God your immune system has enough strength to bring your body back to life.
Take a look at the Stanislaw Burzynski story. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/06/11/burzynski-the-movie.aspx. If you haven’t heard, this will shock you.
http://www.facebook.com/QuadCityNerds Kevin Morrison

Any doctor tried that with me and my son and they would be calling more than child protective services and I guarantee he would never walk right again!!!
http://www.facebook.com/paul.fassa Paul Fassa

Good warning to keep the pro-vaccination shills away. They look for this sort of thing and come out like sharks sensing blood. It’s almost becoming common practice to deny pediatric care for children not vaccinated or even report parents to social child “services.” Good for you Alisha. Much research has been done to show that non-vaccinated children are healthier long term than vaccinated, while many measles and whooping cough epidemics occur within vaccinated populations. The number of those damaged by vaccination exceed the official numbers that are are rarely disclosed anywhere.

Suzy

It is obvious that they don’t care if the child is glowingly healthy, as exemplified by Alisha’s story. They still insist you are going to kill the child by not vaccinating. Do these people have brains or what is in their skull? Health is irrelevant…following orders is all they understand.

Mrsvoltaire

Nothing will be done to this doctor because this is the standard of care in these United States and a 1000 paediatricians will line up to back this creep up. Parents need to find doctors who they can work with, family doctors, homeopaths, chiropractors, naturopaths and put paeds out of business because paediatricians have outlived their usefulness. Whatever happened to a loving grandmother? Honestly, this has been going on for decades! Stand up for your rights! I did when my time came and it is your turn now, so do it! If you do not want to fight for your rights, maybe you are not entitled to them!
amanda

This is interesting information: “As an associate member of the American Bar Association, I suggest that anyone who is told by a doctor, threaten them with refusal of medical services, or threaten to report them to “child services,” immediately report this doctor to law enforcement and the AMA for ethics violation. The Federal Trade Commission must also be notified.A doctor is a VENDOR. The products they sell are vaccines. It is against federal law for a vendor to threaten you if you choose NOT to buy their products. This appears to be a prime example of an act of extortion, in violation of the federal RICO ACT. This is not something to be taken lightly: The act of threatening for the purpose of extorting money is a FEDERAL OFFENSE:http://ricoact.com/?page_id=122“The RICO Act | Ricoact.com LLCricoact.com
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=581130879 Meri B. Kassner

If this situation happened to me I’d report the doctor IMMEDIATELY! That is a horrible way for any doctor to behave. This experience with effect your son both positively and negatively for the rest of his life. Hopefully you will be able to find a pediatrician who actually cares about their patients instead of just trying to intimidate them. I am a Critical Care AEMT and I always approach every patient with respect and dignity. I am horrified someone wouldn’t do the same.
bodica

Arrogant country GP (General Practitioner) mocks concerns of grandmother for severely depressed (post natal) daughter and effects on grandson. She helps grandson as much as possible, but has no authority. Called in desperation, Child Protective A**es say wait until something serious happens ( their agenda is not child protecting but child snatching). Arrogant doc’s son arrives; now there are two blunderbusses covering up for one another. Doc son says child is ‘failure to thrive’ and sics CPS and Psych nurses and such on the mother – after dad’s negligence nearly cost her her life.
Frightened she accepts an invitation to stay with a friend in the USA – which kreep turns out to be a pedophile groomer and a dangerous, warped character.
Meanwhile they create as many problems as possible and mistrust between mother and grandmother – a homeopath whose fine work called their shoddy practices into question.
I mentioned this to a doc formerly ina pediatric unit in a Hospital – but she isn’t a pediatrician…well we’re talking Ireland here…and she just blanked me…if I said ‘nice day,’ I’d get a response, but child victimisation, attempted or otherwise is of neither weight nor moment.
Another pediatrician of my acquaintance is a pill popping addle headed pedophile. Not the kindly, trustworthy docs of yore…
So , Moms, trust your own instincts, but find a good homeopathist or pediatrician (there are some out there) who respects you, and values life. For asssurance at least.